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Posted Anonymously
Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 1:51 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 1:51 PM EST
Hi all – Alex Weinstein here, head of technology at Wetpaint.

Over the past few weeks, we have received a number of complaints from the Wetpaint community about wikis created that contain a variety of offensive material, and therefore violate Wetpaint’s Terms of Service. To preserve the health of the community and provide better service to those that abide by our Terms of Service, we have made a decision to:

- Immediately terminate any wikis that violate our Terms of Service; and
- Cease creation of new wikis until we are able to deploy tighter controls for this sort of Terms of Service violations.

Existing wikis will continue functioning without interruption, with improved performance due to freed up hardware capacity. In the coming 3 months, we are planning to upgrade the server hardware for the Wetpaint Wiki platform to further improve wiki page load performance.

Thank you.
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bellswebster
bellswebster
1. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 1:58 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 1:58 PM EST
Thanks for calling in Alex. Your response is most appreciated. 18  out of 116 found this valuable. Do you?    
walrusworldstudios
walrusworldstudios
2. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:09 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:12 PM EST
Hello Mr. Weinstien,

It's great to hear that Wetpaint is dedicated to improving performance for the wiki platform. Freeing up hardware capacity will definitely lead to faster loading times. However, at this point in time, the wikis are loading at a fast enough rate for me. Since the beginning of the new year, my colleagues and I have discussed pressing maintenance issues with over 250 members of the wiki community. The wiki community has concluded that, along with increased loading speed, the return of mass messaging would be very beneficial to the continued success of the wiki platform.

When the mass messaging system was functional, every moderator and administrator on Wetpaint relied on it in order to keep their members informed of their site's daily occurrences. When the mass messaging system stopped working, every moderator and administrator on Wetpaint lost the means of convenient communication with the members of their wikis. Many wikis have tried to cope with the situation by developing other methods to communicate with their members; however, none of these new methods are fruitful. For example, on Warrior Cat Clans 2 Classic, the Staff Members created a newspaper in order to keep their members informed. Unfortunately, there are few members that check the newspaper on a daily basis. Even though the Staff Members have encouraged their members to check the newspaper daily, there are very few members who comply with these demands. This lack of communication has caused a decline in the retention rate of every wiki on the wiki platform.

Every member of the wiki community would be grateful to Wetpaint if mass messaging could be included as another product of improved performance to the wiki platform. With that in mind, my colleagues and I, along with the entire community, appreciates your efforts to improve any portion of the wiki platform.

-Matt
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CaptainSpaz
CaptainSpaz
3. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:19 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:19 PM EST
Thanks for your message, and for the promise to fix page loading issues.

As the Head Judge of the Golden Paint Can Awards, I would like to know approximately how long users will not be allowed to create new wikis, as the Emerging award Category is for wikis that are created between January 31, 2013 and August 1, 2013.

Thanks!
-Phillip
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yaoilover222
4. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:31 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:31 PM EST
REALLY? the site that most people are complaining about being deleted, yaoihaven has been going on for years now and had a check if the user was 18 or older
nobody is gonna complain about this if you at least bring that one site back
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CryingDove
CryingDove
5. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:33 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:37 PM EST
"REALLY? the site that most people are complaining about being deleted, yaoihaven has been going on for years now and had a check if the user was 18 or older
nobody is gonna complain about this if you at least bring that one site back"
Although reply # 4 and mine # 5 are off topic to this thread, it needs to be addressed.

This issue is really not the complaining, but the violation of the TOS. The complaints only brought attention to those violations.

How many members were on that wiki that were under the age of 18? I can name several.
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yaoilover222
6. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:35 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:35 PM EST
"How many members were on that wiki that were under the age of 18? I can name several.
"
there are alot more people who are complaining about it being down, and who is truely above and under age?
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Posted Anonymously
7. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:37 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:37 PM EST
I think its really strange that someone who is supposed to be the 'head of technology at Wetpaint' wouldn't bother to sign in. I mean why start a thread Anonymously, anyone could claim to be 'Alex Weinstein', or use any other name for that matter. 123  out of 126 found this valuable. Do you?    

yaoilover222
8. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:39 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:39 PM EST
exactly
why be anonymous when you're a head person?
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Posted Anonymously
9. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:39 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:39 PM EST
".................members were on that wiki that were under the age of 18? I can name several.
"
If you knew there were members under 18 logging onto a site thats for 18 and older then why did you do nothing?
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yaoilover222
10. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:40 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:40 PM EST
because im under 18 and often went there to fap, it was a pretty good place for gay doujinn and shota 51  out of 87 found this valuable. Do you?    
Axdi
Axdi
11. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:41 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:41 PM EST
Ok now excuse me but you really thing that this is the best way to proceed.If you thing that a wiki is violating it's term of service wouldn't it be better to notify the administrator and see if the issue can be resolve or give a notification first.
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Posted Anonymously
12. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:42 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:42 PM EST
I was a fan of yaoihaven myself, but personally I don't see why people are acting like i'ts unfair that it's down. If adult content was against the rules, then it shouldn't have been made here in the first place. 28  out of 94 found this valuable. Do you?    
bellswebster
bellswebster
13. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:43 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:47 PM EST
"there are alot more people who are complaining about it being down, and who is truely above and under age?"
It is a cartoon porn site and violates the TOS. We don't need that type of trash (in my opinion) on these platforms. It should of been locked years ago if its been in operation that long. If any wiki violates the terms of service there is no need to talk about it. It is just locked off.
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Posted Anonymously
14. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:44 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:44 PM EST
Didn't that website have somewhere between 40,000 to 60,000 members? 121  out of 127 found this valuable. Do you?    

yaoilover222
15. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:44 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:44 PM EST
it was here for YEARS
it should have been taken down years ago if thats what you think, but the thing has hundreds of fans, and ought to be re-istablished
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Naru2008
Naru2008
16. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:45 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:45 PM EST
For those doubting the original poster is Alex Weinstein, I can confirm it is indeed him. He does work for Wetpaint, and his title IS 'Head of Technology'.

-Clay
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yaoilover222
17. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:46 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:46 PM EST
"For those doubting the original poster is Alex Weinstein, I can confirm it is indeed him. He does work for Wetpaint, and his title IS 'Head of Technology'.

-Clay"
how can you CONFIRM its ACTUALLY him
just because he says he is and says his position doesnt MEAN its him
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Axdi
Axdi
18. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:47 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:47 PM EST
"Although reply # 4 and mine # 5 are off topic to this thread, it needs to be addressed.

This issue is really not the complaining, but the violation of the TOS. The complaints only brought attention to those violations.

How many members were on that wiki that were under the age of 18? I can name several.
"
If there a violation then maybe it is fair to give the administrator a chance to fix it.Now about the fact that some members are underage.
The wiki works just like any other adult site works and so it's in no way responsible for the actions of individuals. It's job was to notify the viewer that the content is available only to "grown ups" and it does that.
Yes there might be some underage persons accessing the site but this doesn't mean that the wiki and everybody else has to pay for it.
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walrusworldstudios
walrusworldstudios
19. RE: Update from Wetpaint
Jan 17 2013, 2:48 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2013, 2:49 PM EST
"I think its really strange that someone who is supposed to be the 'head of technology at Wetpaint' wouldn't bother to sign in. I mean why start a thread Anonymously, anyone could claim to be 'Alex Weinstein', or use any other name for that matter."
Hey Anonymous,

His account was banned on Wetpaint Central. As you can see, a few minutes ago, Clay unbanned the account. It can be assumed that Alex could not post on his real account due to the fact that it was banned from Wetpaint Central. His account is currently unbanned, so I assume that he'll provide future updates on his actual account. Plus, if you haven't noticed, the shutdown of Yaoi Haven and Alex's announcement of stricter enforcement of the Wetpaint Terms of Service go hand in hand with each other. Only Wetpaint has the power to block sites. If the Yaoi Haven Wiki did infringe upon the Wetpaint TOS, the wiki was blocked, and Alex's post would be authentic.

Plus, after talking to my colleagues, Clay has confirmed with our contact at Wetpaint that Alex's post is, in fact, authentic. With this information now available, I'd like us to return to the topic at hand instead of discussing the validity of Alex's post. If you guys have any relevant questions, comments, or concerns, please post them below. If your comments are irrelevant, please refrain from posting them.

-Matt
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